OneSpot Discussion: Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo [Exits]

Content Nation ™ - Latest Articles says…

Flickr Founders Flee From Yahoo: A Lesson for Future Social Media Acquisitions?

[image removed from summary]You would need a good-sized broom to sweep your way through all of the posts being filed about the exit ofFlickrco-founders Caterina Fake and Stewart Butterfield fromYahoo, a departure explained in part by a memo f…

Gawker says…

Is Getty Images Buying Flickr? [Rumormonger]

We heard a wild rumor that Getty Images agreed to buy photo-sharing website Flickr from Yahoo. At first blush the gossip sounds crazy. Widely-used Flickr is a crown Web 2.0 jewel for Yahoo, which dissolved its own photo site after acquiring …

Some French Guy says…

YC is a cult: follow-up

(Y Combinator is one of the best of the VC bunch. These essays are to help me articulate the conflict hackers have with suits, and how we could go about having a healthier relationship. I haven’t made up my mind yet if that’s even possible, b…

ZDNet Asia Latest Tech News says…

Flickr founder knocks Yahoo's culture

During a recent visit to Australia, former Yahoo staffer Stewart Butterfield criticized the search giant for its lack of an innovative culture compared to rival Google.

ZDNet UK News says…

Flickr founder knocks Yahoo's culture

During a recent visit to Australia, former Yahoo staffer Stewart Butterfield criticised the search giant for its lack of an innovative culture compared to rival Google

News | BuilderAU.com.au says…

Flickr founder knocks Yahoo

During a visit to Australia this week, Flickr founder and former Yahoo staffer Stewart Butterfield criticised the search giant for its lack of an innovative culture compared to rival Google.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

marwei posted a reply: That is really bizarre! Bizarre but entertaining. What'd we do without the ValleyWag, eh? :-)

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

ellipse posted a reply: what kimmers said, becuase - i think we can all agree Caterina and stewart make beautiful babies. - go on what is selling your company about if it's not about the enjoying life and not working 24/7 afterwards oh an…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

seawallrunner posted a reply: oh what news! Good luck Stewart and Caterina in all that you do, I am sad to hear that you are leaving. The resignation letter is outstanding! As memorable as its writer. I am certain that your next venture …

The HR Capitalist says…

I Quit!! Resignation Letters Gone Bad....

Ah yes, the resignation letter. Properly crafted, an act of thankfulness, dignity and perhaps most importantly - full of language that doesn't cause the the proverbial "bridge" to combust into flames. In other words - it takes the high road,...

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Jayel Aheram posted a reply: Thank you, Stewart and Caterina. These past three years have been amazing. I still remember when Stewart himself responded to help emails. When was the last time Jerry Yang responded to an email personally? And…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

striatic posted a reply: "(Does she have a Flickr account at least?)" yes. : )

Computerworld UK's Roundup says…

Of Honey and Tin

Honey is all very well, but what we really need is more tin.

debbie millman says…

Stewart Butterfield's Brilliant Resignation Letter

The always enlightening Grant McCracken pointed me to this brilliant resignation letter from Stewart Butterfield (co-founder of Flickr) to Brad Garlinghouse at Yahoo! (Yahoo! bought Flickr in 2005 for $35 million.) This letter is almost as go…

Scribbling.net says…

Nixon's Resignation Letter

Nixon's Resignation Letter: Shorter, but not as funny as Stewart’s.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

McSixth posted a reply: I call dibs on any leftover bacon in the refrigerator.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

bosquetango posted a reply: Mazel Tov to you two! You've earned some serious fun time with your family. Speaking as a father who's 24 year old son is at this moment touring Europe, I can't believe how freaking fast it came to be from that ti…

Funny Pages 2.0 says…

Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo

Stewart Butterfield, the cantankerous cofounder of Flickr, has, as we've noted, tendered his resignation to Yahoo, as has wife and cofounder Caterina Fake. The two recently celebrated, along with Flickr's other original employees, a "Vestfest…

yahooza | blog says…

More than bleeding purple

http://valleywag.com/5017424/stewart-butterfields-bizarre-resign....Click it, read it. It's Stewart Butterfield's—Flickr co-founder—good-bye resignation note. Simply unreal and hilarious. I wish I had the cajones.It's an appropria…

Mister Snitch! says…

Will the last one leaving Yahoo please turn out the lights?

Flickr founder Stewart Butterfield bolts, leaving a quirky, rambling sayonara note.This is one of those posts where the REAL value is in the comments section.AND: Another one bites the dust.AND: Automating the Yahoo resignation letter writing…

This Blog Sits at the says…

Yahoo, brand drama and the summer solstice

It's like that scene in Men in Black, the one that shows aliens bailing out of spaceship earth. A lot of talent is now in flight, including Flickr founders, Stewart Butterfield and Caterina Fake, Delicious founder, Joshua Schacter, not to...

Epicenter says…

Dear Yahoo, I Quit! Signed, [Your Name Here]

You know you wish you could quit Yahoo. It's a drag now that the Microsoft balloon has burst. Like that was gonna make working here anything like the good old days when you could buy a Maserati on yesterday afternoon's...

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

werewegian posted a reply: Congratulations Stewart and Caterina on everything you've achieved here. It's been a major part of my life for almost three and a half years and I'm sure it's been the same for millions of others. Good luck on you…

BuzzFeed - Business says…

Yahoo Job Openings

BUSINESS BUZZ – With a string of recent high-profile resignations at Yahoo, now’s the time to submit a rémé/strong> Executives have been quitting in droves — most recently, the founders of Flickr and Delicious both resigned. Start looking …

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

-RobW- posted a reply: I am VERY jealous of Stewart's alpaca herd, whether ficitonal or not.

WSJ.com: MarketBeat says…

Yahoo Reorg: Whither Jerry Yang?

Judge Crater, call your office. (Source: Wikipedia) This much is clear for Yahoo Inc.: in the wake of the scuttled effort by Microsoft Inc. to acquire the Internet-search company, there’s a lot of soul-searching going on. By investors, tr…

5 Blogs Before Lunch says…

Flickr Founder Fires Off A Funny Resignation Letter

Yahoo! is having a personnel problem, leading to a PR problem. In the last few days, three executive vice presidents, two senior vice presidents and handful of other well-regarded employees have publicly announced their intention to leave. So…

WallStreetFighter says…

The Funny and Money Friday Daily Links

This is scary $1.4 Quadrillion in DerivativesAn interesting article on the Economics of BananasThe whole state of Hawaii is getting hammered financially. It costs a fortune to get everything there. As I said yesterday, the real money is in a…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

BigBean posted a reply: I too am sad that the alpacas feature so little on your flickr streams. Thank you Stewart and Caterina for dreaming up this place, and for collecting together such an amazing team of people who make flickr flickr. M…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

sesame ellis posted a reply: Thank you for Flickr. I look forward to what you come up with in the future.

PCMech says…

Flickr Founders Leave Yahoo. Now What?

Yahoo is in the digital doghouse lately after they made what many see as a bonehead move and walked away from talks with Microsoft. Stocks crashed on the news and it hasn’t really recovered since the drop. Now we have news that the co-founder…

Billion Dollar Baloney says…

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Bellingham Herald / Blogs says…

Flickr founder resignation letter: "Tin is in my blood"

A lot of Flickr users saw the site’s cofounder Stewart Butterfield’s resignation coming, but few could have foreseen his oddly crafted resignation letter.

TIM - Timothy Sykes says…

For You Intellectuals Out There, This Describes Yahoo Inc (YHOO)

UPDATE: First it was Flickr’s founder resigning from YHOO, now its Delicious’ founder too! Damnnnn! As hard as I try to stick specifically to penny stocks, pump and dumps, frauds and blatant stock manipulation–as that arena is my specialty–st…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Steffe posted a reply: Sad to see Caterina and Stewart go. Glad to hear that Kakul understands the flickr philosophy.

50 Books says…

Best Resignation Letter Ever

Stewart Butterfield, cofounder of Flickr, has resigned from the company, signifying a parting of ways with Flickr's new owner, Yahoo. And his McSweeney's-esque exit letter is one of the best things I've read in ages.It begins:Dear Brad,As you…

The Inquirer says…

Flickr founders ditch Yahoo

Wily Ferret the Inquirer, Thursday 19 June 2008. 20:16:00 Thanks for the (photo sharing) memories THE MASS EXODUS of talent from Yahoo continues apace, as the founders of popular photo-sharing site Flickr quit the Silicon Valley heartbreaker.…

Magnanimous says…

Narrow ideas inside big corporations

A great comment yesterday from WagCurious, in response to Flickr co-founder Stewart Butterfield’s asinine letter of resignation from Yahoo. Oh yeah, I get it. Big corporations are evil, because they diversify. If they just stayed wildly suc…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Lynn Morag posted a reply: Just wanted to add my thanks and good luck!

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Jim Skea posted a reply: A discussion is presently underway in The Forum on posting pictures like the ones in the preceding comment . Maybe, members of FlickrCentral could shed some light on the issues related to the matter. I've added my …

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

klausness posted a reply: Goodbye, Stewart and Caterina. Thanks for everything. And good luck with the tin-smithing, Stewart.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Sparticus posted a reply: Really? I thought Goodwin invented it.

GracefulFlavor says…

Stewart Butterfield Resigns From Yahoo…Perfectly

Stewart Butterfield, co-founder of Flickr, has tendered his resignation letter to Yahoo, as has his wife and fellow co-founder Caterina Fake. Check it out: Put simply, Yahoo lost focus and Butterfield doesn’t feel he has a place anymore. T…

clusterflock says…

How to resign from a job in the social media age

Stewart Butterfield, co-founder of Flickr, has tendered his resignation letter to Yahoo, as has his wife and fellow co-founder Caterina Fake. Check it out: Put simply, Yahoo lost focus and Butterfield doesn’t feel he has a place anymore. …

Pensieri di un lunatico minore says…

Resignation letter

It’s a sad, sad day that one of the founders of Flickr is leaving Yahoo!, but man what a resignation letter.

The Inquirer ES says…

¿Cómo dimite el que fuera creador de Flickr?

Ayer contábamos que los dos fundadores (y que además son marido y mujer) de Flickr han acabado abandonando la empresa que crearon y que luego les compró Yahoo! Y ahora nos enteramos de que la carta de dimisión de Stewart Butterfield se ha fil…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Sparticus posted a reply: I started a group to protest this outrage, that you should all join

gadgetforlife.info says…

Drainage: Flickr co-founders bail on Yahoo

Stewart Butterfield and Caterina Fake, the husband-and-wife team behind Flickr, the photo-sharing site that sparked the Web 2.0 craze when it was bought by Yahoo in 2005, have decided to leave the struggling internet group. I caught up with S…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

vrai the dotty prof. posted a reply: Long live flickr. Flickr is dead.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

chandigarh_guy posted a reply: A discussion is presently underway in The Forum on posting pictures like the ones in the preceding comment . Maybe, members of FlickrCentral could shed some light on the issues related to the matter.

Mouli's blog says…

Flickr founders leave Yahoo

It looks like Catrina Fake has already left, and Stewart Butterfield is on his way out on july. Stewart is apparently known for his wit, and he has submitted, in my opinion, the funniest resignation letter, I have ever seen. To give a brief b…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Jim Skea posted a reply: Perhaps stewart's resignation letter is a Tin-Tin reference. There's a remarkable similarity. Stewart Butterfield From modomatic Tin-Tin From heather

jr conlin's ink stained banana says…

Never Easy To Say Goodbye

It's kinda odd. i spent much of the day composing the various fare-thee-well notes that seem to be required when one leaves a company after working there an inordinate amount of time. Personally, i don't think i'll ever top Stewart Butterfie…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

chandigarh_guy posted a reply: Shouldn't kakul's buddyicon have some sort of badge identifying her as part of the official flickr team? Staff should all be identifiable as such to the proletariat.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

♥ shhexycorin ♥ posted a reply: -RobW- - I see alpacas every day... I am learning their language.

IT, A Philosophy says…

Stewart Butterfield – Best Resignation Letter, Ever

This comes by way of Daring Fireball courtesy of Valleywag here.Stewart Butterfield and his wife, Caterina Fake, both resigned from Yahoo! I have to say, Stewart's email letter is frickin' great. I'll need to keep this one handy somewhere in …

SFist says…

Day Around the Bay

Submit your most creative Muni and Bart maps to Cubed now. We said NOW! [Curbed] Reason 58918597 why we love Danielle Steel. [SF Weekly] Obama contingent can't campaign at Pride. Qua? [SFBG] Stewart Butterfield (co-founder of Flickr)…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Jason Classon posted a reply: Heh Stew.. wanna build a web-based massively multi-player game? It does happen to be summer again :) ps: we can use tin in it if you wish.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

McSixth posted a reply: Are we going to pass the hat and buy them Pro Accounts?

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

waferbaby posted a reply: There's a good bunch of us down here in the mines. Remember the canary!

MacUser says…

Yahoo says goodbye to Flickr founders

Things at Yahoo these past months have been somewhat, shall we say, rocky. Not only did they come very close to being acquired by Microsoft,...

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Mattp9 posted a reply: Flickr has opened me up to incredibly talented folks, and pulled my talent out. Priceless. Thank you Stewart & Caterina. Thank you to the Team - I hope for the best for you and all of the Flickrverse.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

topsy@waygood.org posted a reply: I read that Stuart and Caterina were leaving in the excellent wikipeadea entry on flickr. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flickr For some strange reason there is no mention of tin being at the centre of the organisat…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

MichaelSmith posted a reply: Thanks to Stewart and Caterina. You people are cool. Good luck in whatever comes next. Meanwhile, I'm grateful for the good people you left running the place,,,

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

~C4Chaos posted a reply: and life goes on... thanks to Stewart and Caterina for bringing Flickr into this world. godspeed to your future endeavors. and oh, keep on kicking ass! ~C

Poor Mojo Newswire says…

"As you know, tin is in my blood."

Valleywag | Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to YahooStewart Butterfield, the cantankerous cofounder of Flickr, has, as we've noted, tendered his resignation to Yahoo, as has wife and cofounder Caterina Fake. ... In a long, r…

Maniacal Rage says…

Exits: Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo

Exits: Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo: Absolutely fantastic. I hate to see Butterfield and Fake go, and I hope Flickr doesn’t fall apart, but they did a great job and they deserve their success. This letter is just …

Portfolio.com: Daily Brief says…

Flickr Founders Flee Yahoo

Flickr founders Caterina Fake and Stewart Butterfield are leaving Yahoo. Butterfield -- who submitted an odd Onion-esque resignation letter -- will leave the company in July. Fake's last day was on Friday, according to a Yahoo spokesperson…

#FF00AA says…

[News] "Stewart Butterfield’s bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo"

" valleywag.comCan this have legal value? (Well, it’s an email, so I guess it’s just announcing a more straightforward physical letter.)

Epicenter says…

Flickr Founders Flee Yahoo

Flickr founders Caterina Fake and Stewart Butterfield are leaving Yahoo. Butterfield -- who submitted an odd Onion-esque resignation letter -- will leave the company in July. Fake's last day was on Friday, according to a Yahoo spokesperson. "…

carlo.tumblr says…

Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo

Stewart Butterfield's bizarre resignation letter to Yahoo: Totally cuckoo. I love it. :) Gotta admire the chuzpe that comes with $35mio in vesting money.

MetaFilter says…

Flickr founders leaving Yahoo

Please turn off the lights. The founders of flickr are joining the executives leaving Yahoo. Caterine Fake left Friday; Stewart Butterfield will leave July 12th.

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

Ther﹣esa posted a reply: Good luck to the Butterfields! I sincerely hope that they do come back to Vancouver and create some new awesome progressive thing to cure it of its pre-olympics construction zone capitalist mess. Well that may be…

FlickrCentral says…

Reply to Flickr co-founders are leaving Yahoo

johnwmacdonald posted a reply: good luck and thanks. just my 2 cents.

memoirs on a rainy day says…

Stewart Butterfield Strange Resignation Letter

Stewart Butterfield’s strange resignation letter from Flickr and Yahoo. He’s known for writing quirky missives.

Tech Blog says…

Drainage: Flickr co-founders bail on Yahoo

Stewart Butterfield and Caterina Fake, the husband-and-wife team behind Flickr, the photo-sharing site that sparked the Web 2.0 craze when it was bought by Yahoo in 2005, have decided to leave the struggling internet group. I caught up with S…

BARRONS.com: Tech Trader Daily - Barron's Online says…

Yahoo: So How’s That Employee Retention Plan Going?

Yahoo (YHOO), home of the incredibly controversial employee retention plan, continues to hemorrhage top executives. Today, the company lost Flickr co-founders Stewart Butterfield and Caterina Fake, who sold the photo-sharing site to Yahoo in …

GameSetWatch says…

GameSetLinks: Junking Up The Eden-ous Pixels

Aha, GameSetLinks makes it to the weekend, and this set of ten multitudinous links is headed by some more info on Q's upcoming PixelJunk Eden, which I'm definitely looking forward to, in an abstract type way. Also wandering around in here -…

Bigmouthmedia search engine news: Main Headlines says…

Yahoo! loses yet more prominent staff

It's been an eventful few days at Yahoo! as the search engine loses yet more prominent staff.Last Thursday, Jeremy Zawodny, one of the developers on the Yahoo Developer Network and well known for his blog, announced that he was leaving Yahoo…

open... says…

Of Honey and Tin

Honey is all very well, but what we really need is more tin.

Influx Insights Weblog says…

nurturing the talent you buy

Everything is going crazy over at Yahoo as the brightest and the best leave the ship.(Grant seems to have all the details and more in his post). Yahoo was a brand that shone bright at the earliest part of the internet revolution, but it faile…

TheBizofCoding says…

Stewart Butterfield Resigns from Yahoo!

Stewart Butterfield has left a comment on TechCrunch which confirms that he and co-founder wife Caterina Fake are leaving Flickr and Yahoo! Kakul Srivastava will take his place as GM of Flickr. Stewart's Resignation letter at Yahoo! is at the…

Top Stocks Blog - MSN Money says…

The strangest resignation letter ever

The employee exodus continues at Yahoo, with Stewart Butterfield and wife Caterina Fake the latest to head for the exits. Butterfield and Fake founded the Flickr photo service, which Yahoo bought three years ago for $35 million.What sets Butt…

GMSV says…

Microsoft sets out cheese to draw scurrying Yahoos

The high-level defections from Yahoo continue to make the headlines, the latest being the departures of Flickr creators Caterina Fake and Stewart Butterfield, who sold their company to Yahoo in 2005 for a reported $35 million and apparently h…

WebProNews Feed says…

Cofounders Butterfield, Fake Leaving Flickr

We've moved from embarrassing to scary to ludicrous. Like it or not, Yahoo's VIPs keep on departing, and Stewart Butterfield and Caterina Fake, the married cofounders of Flickr, are the latest well-known employees to quit the company.read more

Susan Mernit's Blog says…

Yahoo: The circle game

So with the departure of Caterina and Stewart from Yahoo, I don't think much of anyone from the gang of pirates, as Caterina dubbed the ADD team back in 2005/6, is left. This is a large turn-over of the social media experts, not that anyone i…

Curious Office says…

Stewart Butterfield resigns from flickr/yahoo

You really have to wonder how a resignation letter like this winds up on the internet. But, it is great material for the folks over at Valleywag isn’t it! For a brief time I worked with Stewart as we tried to sort out the flickr/imagekind p…

DealZone says…

All aboard the Orient Express

Japan's Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group may invest about $926 million in British bank Barclays, people familiar with the matter told Reuters, the latest in a string of subprime-hit Western lenders increasingly turn to Asia for funding.

The Drama 2.0 Show says…

Flickr Founder Butterfield’s Resignation Letter Proves Money Can’t Buy Class

Valleywag has published what it purports to be Flickr founder Stewart Butterfield’s resignation letter. Flickr, of course, was acquired by Yahoo in 2005 and Butterfield has joined the ranks of the Yahoo employees who have decided to leave fol…

L.A. Times Tech Blog says…

Around the Web 6.18.2008: Microsoft buys non-Yahoo firm

In honor of the YouTube item below, we offer you as a ukulelelicious gift one of our favorite recent videos. Without further ado, here's what's happening around the Web: -- YouTube is going long: the dominant video repository on the...

Changing Way says…

Yahoo: Lonely at the Top

I rarely blog about executive comings and goings, but the goings at Yahoo are hard to ignore. Flickr is one of the few web services with which I feel a personal connection. That connection is frayed with the departure of Flickr founders Stew…

Taylor Davidson says…

Can the photography business create a new DNA?

Shift | London, United Kingdom | 2006 The basic economics of the photography industry have been absolutely, fundamentally, permanently upended, flattened by the democratization of the tools of the production and a shift in the technologies, …

HarvardBusiness.org says…

What Strategists Can Learn From Microsoft Vs Yahoo

There's a huge amount of discussion about Yahoo and Microsoft going on. It’s an epic battle: the future of several industries hinges on the outcome, right? Maybe not. Here's the big question no one’s asking: does it matter who Microsoft buys…

Damien Mulley says…

Fluffy Links - Friday June 20th 2008

Off to London for the weekend. Careful now. Maz has a new blog. Looks great already. Tis called Made Marian. New blog sur le block. Fitzy’s Cloud. And another. Is this the most comprehensive post about Leonard Cohen ever on an Irish blog? Can…

Search Engine Land: News About Search Engines & Search Marketing says…

Flickr Founders Fake & Butterfield Latest To Leave Yahoo

Yahoo feels like a nation that won its independence only to see all its leaders immediately flee the country. The latest emigrants: Flickr cofounders Caterina Fake and Stewart Butterfield. Their departure is unlikely to sta…

ReadWriteWeb says…

Learning from Flickr's Co-founders on Their Way Out of Yahoo

In June 2005 Yahoo! acquired upstart Canadian photosharing web site Flickr and the web hasn't been the same since. Yahoo, on the other hand, didn't change nearly as much as everyone expected it to. Pre-CEO Jerry Yang told then-Business 2.0 …

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